Mid-Week Open Thread: State of the Union Thoughts?

I’m going to have to split it up, but I’m nearing completion of what appears to be a 2500 word essay on what I thought about President Obama’s State of the Union address… I may just dump the whole thing on you poor souls, then go back and break it up into posts about the major points made.

But while you all assuredly can’t wait for that (not), lets hear what you thought about the State of the Union, and anything else going on this week that you feel like talking about.

Take it away…



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16 Responses to “Mid-Week Open Thread: State of the Union Thoughts?”
  1. avatar Cranky Critter says:

    When I watch the SOTU, a tend to do active editing and sorting of various ideas. Every President tosses out a fair number of items that relate to things near and dear to his team, but are not even remotely viable at the time of the speech. I always disregard those.

    Obama did a good job for himself of setting the framing for his re-election campaign. In particular, the issue of extending the income tax break for the top bracket. MO this will be a big losing issue for the GOP.

    Obama also included a number of ideas that he blatantly poached from the GOP, which I am sure frosts the GOP for strategic reasons. Both Boehner and Cantor appeared to me to be unhappily surprised by some of these, as though they were unsuccessfully trying to come up with a parry.

    The emergence of these ideas on Obama’s wish list suggests to me he’s prepared to get re-elected to face a GOP majority in both chambers of congress.

    Mitch Daniels appeared to me to be the weakest response deliveryman the GOP has chosen in years: pale, unvigorous, flat, pessimistic, strongly reminiscent of the stereotypical milquetoast conservative. All that was missing was the bowtie and the domineering mother.

    • avatar Dustin says:

      Cranky, some thoughts.

      1. The GOP is dead on the issue of fair taxation of the wealthy and Mitt Romney is literally the poster child for this issue.

      2. I don’t think the GOP will have very strong majorities in both chambers, and possibly not one at all in the House if Newt Gingrich is the nominee. And you can bet that if they do, Democrats will utilize the filibuster to prevent them from sending poison-pill legislation to Obama’s desk.

      3. Daniel’s response was lame, but not anywhere as bad as Bobby Jindal’s from two years ago, which basically tarnished his higher office prospects. But yes, milquetoast conservative is right. I did appreciate the deliciously Orwellian “we want a country of haves and soon-to-haves”. Get it, you’re not poor, you’re soon-to-be-not-poor!

  2. avatar Leonidas says:

    We have heard this before, literally:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDDRiGIUYQo

  3. avatar Leonidas says:

    Best part of the Speech, Republican Jeff Flake standing up with the Democrats when they stood to clap…why did he do this?  He was standing beside Gabby Giffords and helping her to stand.  It was probably the only display of the entire affair on anyone’s part where basic humanity overcame partisanship.

    • avatar Leonidas says:

      Oh I also want to add it wasn’t a one time thing, he stood up each time Gifford’s wanted to stand up with the other democrats, helping her to rise and return to her seat in support of “the other side” when he normally would have remained seated in support of his.  He was a real Class Act.

  4. avatar Leonidas says:

    Another item that makes you go WTF?

    The Department of Education has acknowledged using flawed data in a study on the impact of race on student loan repayment rates, having omitted black students from its calculation.

    http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/01/25/education-department-admits-flawed-data-gainful-employment-analysis#ixzz1kYXTevlO

    How the hell do you omit something like that?

     

  5. avatar Leonidas says:

    Another WTF? but this one relates to the state of the union adress.

    http://broadsidebooks.net/2012/01/25/buffett-and-his-secretary-cant-get-their-story-straight-on-taxes/

    Since the top marginal rate on taxable income (which kicks in when taxable income exceeds $379,150) is 35%, it’s impossible that Ms. Bosnak’s claim that she pays a tax rate of 35.8 % applies to her taxable income. Since taxable income is always less than total gross income, the claim is even less credible for that measure.

    Despite these factual inconsistencies, Bosanek doubled down, putting herself forward as the face of Obama’s tax inequality mantra:

    I just feel like an average citizen. I represent the average citizen who needs a voice…Everybody in our office is paying a higher tax rate than Warren.

    If she’s really paying a marginal rate of 35%, she’s earning over $379,150 per year in taxable income, which places her in the top 1% of income earners nationally. If this is true, Ms. Bosanek is anything but an average citizen. An average citizen–say someone who earns the median salary of a secretary to a CEO, which is $67, 791, according to a 2011 survey conducted by Certified Compensation Professionals–pays a much lower effective tax rate on taxable income than Ms. Bosanek. Assuming this average citizen took about $15,000 in deductions, she would pay an effective tax rate of 17% on taxable income of $52,791, the same rate Mr. Buffett claims to be paying.

  6. avatar Dividist says:

    Sol – While you are editing your SOTU opus, you might take a minute and fix the misspelling of “moderate” in you site banner.  Unless you really are spearheading the moderaate groundswell.

  7. avatar Leonidas says:

    Another Partisan fail, but not surprising coming from Daily Kos
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/27/1058961/-Cheers-and-Jeers:-Rum-and-Coke-FRIDAY!?via=blog_1

    According to their “Who won the week poll” the winner is at least as of now:

    “President Obama, for his State of the Union address and for giving AZ Gov. Jan Brewer a lesson in good manners”

    Of course what that really means is the President getting upset because the Governor was not flattering to him in her book.

    What options did not win in the poll, well here is one:

    “SEAL Team 6, for rescuing the American and Danish humanitarian aid workers held hostage by pirates in Somalia”

    So the President lashing out over a bruised ego beats American heroes rescuing a hostage….

    Oh and here is another that got beat in the reader poll

    “Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, for stepping down with grace and dignity…and vowing, ‘I will return”

    Daily Kos readers are nuts.

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